tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post5125972409315282274..comments2023-08-19T04:56:24.878-07:00Comments on It seemed like a good idea at the time...: Calero, gates, hoovesFunderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06358687366401205336noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-19809642975741264702012-08-23T10:21:00.576-07:002012-08-23T10:21:00.576-07:00A couple of my friends do a lot of their own trimm...A couple of my friends do a lot of their own trimming and have a couple of methods for getting the feet (soles and walls) soft enough to trim. One is to take a soaking boot and a plastic bag and grated potato - raw, no need to peel, just grated potato. Pack the potato well into the hoof (if there's no concavity, put it in the plastic bag) and the bag on the hoof. Secure it with duct tape, then put the soaking boot over the whole thing. If you have no soaking boot, you can get creative with a piece of innertube. Let it soak at least over night and things will get soft enough to chip out or carve (carefully!) the false sole, and rasp the hoof wall. This works great if you suspect an abscess too, as it will soften the hoof enough for the thing to drain.<br /><br />Good luck!<br /><br />The other method is pretty similar but instead of grated potato,they used a bunch of gauze and some sterile saline and maybe add a shot of betadine. The gauze can get lumpy, the potato tends to self-distribute.Rosaliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07617438342991909892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-16480636394525146742012-08-22T00:20:56.822-07:002012-08-22T00:20:56.822-07:00Hi Funder I'm not a hoof expert at all either,...Hi Funder I'm not a hoof expert at all either, but something my trimmer said might be relevant. She was telling me about thick foam pads which you can put inside a boot while you ride. She was talking in the context of my chronic abscess horse, but she said that they provide distributed pressure on the sole, much like pea gravel will. They won't be abrasive like gravel, but they improve circulation.<br /><br />Maybe it would help? or not! Maybe you managed to get some sole out since this post.<br /><br />I'd agree with Sara & her trimmer as well, I've noticed that the frog sheds (but I've never noticed it with the sole) spring and autumn, around the same time as their chestnuts peel off.<br /><br />It's all a glorious learning experience :-)Martinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14496995504975297110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-48268683304604895372012-08-20T20:16:20.129-07:002012-08-20T20:16:20.129-07:00About the long toe, I agree with you on that...And...About the long toe, I agree with you on that...And when you lift up her heels look longer than they should, which of course makes the toe fly further out. The thing is, I'm not sure how you'd fix it. I'll be doing some reading up on it because I've seen that a fair bit. I'll let you know if I find anything groundbreaking. ;) Beatrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15908647005878694680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-16717844057360882592012-08-20T08:15:40.419-07:002012-08-20T08:15:40.419-07:00Thank you very much for all the suggestions! Gonn...Thank you very much for all the suggestions! Gonna try and get some of that sole out - I'll update tonight.Funderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358687366401205336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-83116690815630114232012-08-20T06:35:31.639-07:002012-08-20T06:35:31.639-07:00An observation was made by my trimmer when my guys...An observation was made by my trimmer when my guys were last trimmed, after she took off a lot of false sole and flaps from the frogs. She said that she has started to notice that she has to take off a lot more false sole around this time and around Feb - the times that their coats are starting to change over. Her thought was that, since they are basically made from the same thing, maybe they are related.<br /><br />It's just something kicking around her head, gained from observation, but I do know that around Feb Peanut's soles and frogs get pretty funky. I never noticed it around this time of year, but that could just be me.<br /><br />Granted, your gal is growing out her desert feet, and I have absolutely no experience on that. But, if what Kate is theorizing is true, maybe it isn't helping matters. *shrug*Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794050418919719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-30245567387679522552012-08-19T18:55:08.191-07:002012-08-19T18:55:08.191-07:00Glad you found a nice place to ride!Glad you found a nice place to ride!Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13944121836337072178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-64577810864922669722012-08-19T17:38:23.711-07:002012-08-19T17:38:23.711-07:00I think I'd leave the sole, your instinct that...I think I'd leave the sole, your instinct that it's protecting the bruising sounds right. It does look like there might be some thrush in the sulcus, maybe treat that, which could cause the retention too (not loading correcting). All a guess of course, photos are hard to tell so many things.<br /><br />Now gates, that I know! It is awesome to be able to open and close gates, Major is pretty good at it. Except he tries to "help" me by nosing the gate and flinging it out of reach. He did it once and it was cute. Now he keeps thinking it is fun. Don't teach Dixie that part!irish horsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11289040711028666546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-42803940109024662172012-08-19T08:28:23.315-07:002012-08-19T08:28:23.315-07:00We have an often moist, sandy environment here tha...We have an often moist, sandy environment here that keeps Val's soles from toughening up. <br /><br />If you don't already - you can try supplementing magnesium. Apparently there is never enough in hay. I've looked at studies from a research vet on multi-thousands of hay samples, and the best case was about 30% of the rdr.<br /> <br />It's safe - you can't give too much as it flushes. Val's soles have improved in the absence of good hard working surfaces. <br /><br />I get magnesium citrate (a more bioavailable form) at <a href="http://www.bulkfoods.com/whole-foods.asp?wholesale=4734" rel="nofollow">Bulkfoods.com</a>. Val gets 2 TBSP (2500mg of magnesium) per day, but I did a loading dose of 3 for a couple of months. Calm, Forward, Straighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360276614916635500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-84689844595933054942012-08-19T06:43:55.043-07:002012-08-19T06:43:55.043-07:00I'm definitely not a hoof expert, so take this...I'm definitely not a hoof expert, so take this with a grain of salt. You can see the event line where you moved her about 1/3 of the way down the hoof, and it looks like the new growth is coming in at a steeper angle, so that's something she may be dealing with. The thing I would be most concerned about is the deep grooves/cracks in and around the frog. I'd be treating those like crazy. The shedding frog and sole... well, not much you can do to make it "pretty" except more riding on supportive (but wearing) surfaces. <br /><br />Very interesting how much her feet have changed in such a short time. Good luck!jenjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01737679332792618499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-91282234127472106472012-08-19T04:17:23.854-07:002012-08-19T04:17:23.854-07:00Maybe the false sole needs the walls lower so it c...Maybe the false sole needs the walls lower so it can actually exfoliate out? Most probably though she is holding onto the sole until those bruised are 110%. I imagine her feet to be like hard rock, which makes it almost impossible to remove false sole that actually needs to come out.<br /><br />Then there is the conundrum of the false sole not shedding and then that creating bruises of its own then she might throw down MORE sole and compound the whole problem.<br /><br />However, I think there isn't much you can do so just keep swimming I guess.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15121469297442797836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8773599297895528113.post-10914854565583563102012-08-18T21:58:19.042-07:002012-08-18T21:58:19.042-07:00Sounds like you might have found a nice group to r...Sounds like you might have found a nice group to ride with. Knowing some locals helps to find new places to ride on your own sometimes, too.<br /><br />I've had a lot of trouble with false sole this year too! Never dealt with it before, but the one time I trimmed Maddie to where I usually do, she was sore for a week, because she was walking on that false sole instead of her hoof wall. It was just so darn hard I couldn't carve it out!EvenSonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02032555334605790413noreply@blogger.com